Intimacy & The City: Million Dollar Brands, Partnerships, & Keepin’ It Real | Mandii B & Weezy
WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE IN THIS EPISODE: Clutch your pearls, pin up your curls, lay your edges tight, and put the kids to bed, this episode is for grown folks.
This week Victoria Jenn is joined by two women in the media game who are taking the industry by storm. Mandii B and Weezy are co-hosts of the top 1% podcast in the world, Whoreible Decisions, and have built millionaire-dollar brands by educating their community on sexual health and sharing the most intimate parts of their lives.
This episode is jam-packed with humor, business advice, and the plays on how you can build a million-dollar brand while remaining true to yourself.
In this episode:
00:15:54 - Why Live Out Loud? The Importance of Truth, Transparency, and Authenticity
00:24:51 - The Challenges of Starting a Podcast
00:37:45 - Choosing the Right Business Partner
00:47:02 - Surrendering Your Ego to Elevate Your Brand
00:52:29 How to Manage Your Money and Ensure It Grows
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Welcome back to another episode I'm Banking on Cultura I am your host Victoria Jenn Rodriguez and you know when you are in media [ __ ] happens and sometimes it happens in your favor which is exactly what happened for today's episode originally I was just supposed to interview one amazing woman but now I've got two we've got we got Weezy and Mandii B who have built an incredible media platform literally top 1% podcast in the whole entire world and both of them are amazing badass businesswoman and I cannot wait for you guys to get all the tee make sure your edges are together and all that jazz because I'm warning you right now honey explicit language has been used okay so make sure you get into it grab your wine grab your tea this is going to be a good one thank you both for being here y'all thank thank you for having us so on Bing Ana we like to start the show with some Bon but we're going to mix it up with the both of you today so I've never used this card game before and it's called let's [ __ ] date and it's by Serena [ __ ] carrian who literally legalized her middle name to [ __ ] after she graduated college yes and she has built a phenomenal brand during the pandemic she had a live dating show on Instagram and then from there she built out these card games and became a multi-millionaire that's so super dope Latina but when you look at her you think she's a straight up white girl I was the I'm looking at her was definitely G white woman but she's Serena [ __ ] carrian does sound a little bit s ofk we'll take it I think it works in her favor cuz she's able to blend into all the world oh yeah she's giving JLo let's go she she does that [ __ ] be playing an Italian in her film she plays Italian okay I don't think JLo looked is that passing for white but when she played in Italian I was it made Manhattan right yeah she played in Italian no wait was it wedding one Spanish no she was Italian no no wedding oh no she was The Wedding Planner The Wedding Planner I mean they really didn't say what national no cuz the father was like was Italian yes yes you're right you're right you're right I know that's such a good movie but it's so [ __ ] up she play she went from playing an Italian to a well a Mexican to an Italian crazy okay [Laughter] so so um she's right we do talk a lot okay um you know on banking Ona just in general I always like to support women who are doing dope [ __ ] living out loud coloring Outside the Lines which is why I'm bringing her up and want to use you both to play this game so you guys are going to pick a card some might be scandalous so I kind of am nervous so hopefully it's not too crazy get Ed you got to pick a card and answer the question that's on the card okay you go first okay what is the weirdest thing you've heard during sex of course you would pick a card like that all right I'm on third base oh this this one you should have drew no no go ahead and say what you I tell this story all the time and it's funny because we just brought up Italy so my home girl was married to this Italian guy years ago went to Miami and I ended up [ __ ] his friend and his friend was very Italian and he said to me he kept talking about how perfect my breasts are so I thought he recognized that they were fake because they were brand new at the time and I'm like oh you know like thank you but they're not like I you know they're he's like wait what these aren't your tits I'm like no they just got them and so we start [ __ ] right so he's [ __ ] me he goes beautiful breasts what is the name of your doctor I'm like what you as you guys are and I said Dr Greenberg and he goes thank you Dr Green for this beautiful breast dog that memory I swear to God I told that story I'm not going to lie that's crazy I never told that story no never exclusive right here I'm Bing that was Josie's ex-husband his name was the man I [ __ ] with David that is funny um mine is mine is funny uh second base if you were to get arrested tomorrow what would it be for I've been arrested a lot she's been arrested more than me for I only got arrested once and it wasn't even for me it was for my friend um but okay yeah if if I were to get arrested tomorrow what would it be for only because it almost happened to me right I feel like as long as the drugs are in your checked bag you should be fine and so uh coming back from Toronto our fans anytime we have live shows they give us drugs so they gave us some pre-rolls and all those things but we were in Canada but you know right now there's the different states with the with the legal [ __ ] so I as long as you fly from one state to the next where it's legal you good so I was like well it's legal in Canada or it's legal in Toronto it's legal in New York I'm good no [ __ ] it's Federal lines that you're Crossing so um the US Customs is in Toronto and I they took all my bags cuz again I have a order of protection from the last time I was arrested god [ __ ] wow okay why she so and so literally literally the only reason why I wasn't arrested from that is because I declared it but I feel like every time I travel with my little shroom chocolates I have in my mind that Oh I thought it was Hershey's I'm like practicing right in case I get in trouble for traveling with shrooms so I would say if I got arrested tomorrow it would be for traveling with drugs okay all right Fair what is that not a good one you thought I would be arrested for something else what you thought I would be arrested for incent exposure oh that sounds B I go to nude beaches I go where I'm allowed to be naked yeah but you might cross a state line you know what you know what sucking dick in a car oh wow okay I think you could get in trouble for that I just saw a person I saw a person do that in a convertible and some I've seen that too you saw the video uh with the older dudes yes I ain't like that CU kids okay oh boy okay horis so I can participate in this okay I mean this will be for both of you I guess okay it says what was your first impression of me oh [ __ ] oh cute outfit I was going to say that you're very bubbly so your energy when you walked into the room like it was giving good energy clearly that's why I I was like oh I could do this little interview this is cool big hair and big teeth Julia Roberts has that thing where she's got that big smile big hair and it's like the curls yeah a lot of people when they have a big smile they don't show it I literally was saying um just now off camera like oh my God you make me want to wipe in my teeth I love seeing a big smile big eyes like I think that attracts people to people like that to me is an inviting thing when you look open and friendly I actually don't know you're definitely definitely inviting friendly and good energy thank you ladies I appreciate that makes sense you have this little thing thank you so much all right guys so if you haven't figured this out already the reason why both of these ladies are so comfortable speaking about intimacy is because your podcast horrible decisions is essentially all about sexual health kinkies and all the intimate things and you guys have built successful careers in the media space off of this podcast and have been able to Branch out and both of you are respected in the space for building your platforms and I would love to start with where did horrible decision decisions come from the
name so I never do this but this summer I'm actually opening up two slots for private coaching to work oneon-one with me and this specific opportunity is geared toward leaders who find themselves questioning their purpose and are unsure of what their next chapter in life will be they're essentially at a Crossroads and they want more are out of life and are just tired of following the rules they want to trailblaze their own path and live life on their terms without risking their credibility in the marketplace does this sound like you well look coming from corporate I have over two decades of experience and I understand the sacrifices the risk darling and the game that you're forced to play in order to be taken seriously or Worse accepted you've worn The Mask dressed apart talk the talk and from the outside looking in you've made it yet you're unhappy you don't want to fake it anymore and deep down you know that you're destined for more I trained over 20,000 leaders on how to use their uniqueness and their magic to build a life of influence purpose and freedom a life where they don't need a vacation to escape or feel alive a life that is exciting and peaceful at the same time so if you're listening to this and it resonates and it's speaking to your heart and ready to transform your life expand into the unknown and explore the beautiful parts of you that have been hidden for far too long I invite you to complete the application to participate in this private coaching opportunity this is going to be super high touch very white glove kind of experience so once the two slots are taken they're gone so if you're interested I will put the application Link in the show notes make sure to reply check that out I can't wait to hear about your goals and where we are going to take your life next so cheers to your renewed life I came up with the word horrible cuz I'm like pun obsessed but I wanted to call it like a horrible night cuz you're what obsessed plant obsessed PL excuse me okay PL obsessed I love I remember just horrible being like you were just horrible and I was like there got not like horrible like horable yeah like maybe I really just wanted one word word and I was like yeah nah like it got to be something else so literally when we even came up with the name I was we were running through I came up with the decisions part and I was like but they're not horrible like awful like they're just sex experiences yeah sex decisions like things that you know and it's funny cuz it wasn't it didn't take long to come up with the name no and then literally we came up with the name and then here go my outline structured ass now what are our segments going to be cuz we need segments and so we literally over dinner mind you we were at dinner I owed her din Poli doesn't even exist anymore yeah I owed her dinner cuz she didn't have sex with someone I was sure she was going to have sex with so I bet her I was like [ __ ] I bet you you you give him coochie by December and she literally didn't and so I could pull this person up Mandii swears I was going to [ __ ] him just to be funny he texts me every happy New Year how's the studio going you hate me oh my goodness no but swore that swore that they were going to have sex and she didn't so I was like damn I owe you I owe you dinner but [ __ ] don't make it expensive I said $150 limit ma'am um and then we literally talked about the show there so interesting and how did you guys meet we we we we met because I didn't her exboyfriend we were we fought our first time meeting in person was a fight a fight and over a man that was working at Walgreens just a couple years ago like I really want to find him bro I we we have to find him like I know I don't want to bring the but I would literally that would be the only person that I'm like bro because she swears they were still dating and I was like bro y'all basically we were on a break phase we were 15 right me Mandii and I both yeah we were young I had no idea that he had a new girlfriend because he was still engaging with me just like men do right so we were fighting online or whatever blah blah blah blah blah and anyway long story short after the fight I can't remember how we reconnected Ed we had so many mutual friends that they couldn't believe that we didn't hang out cuz I guess everyone thought like we partied we were a lot Alik we were both biracial like everyone was like oh my God how do y'all hate each other right look at you with your black and white family and so we ended up hanging we got on the phone I think we ended up talking for hours comparing stories about the guy everything and then I ended up coming down to New York for a summer where I stayed with her and ended up getting pregnant um not New York no I mean Florida for summer I was living in Atlanta by the time I had moved to Atlanta okay I don't remember that anyway you did get pregnant but that was crazy because like when you think about the chaos this is all before we're 18 so horrible decisions that could have had stories based off of 15 to 18 yeah but I'd love that now we can tell these stories from Young these life lessons these adult stories even stories from yesterday or whenever we literally had an episode right before you came in with someone who we were talking about our childhood sexual experiences with you know just learning your body and pleasure so there's so many facets of horrible it's completely changed to it I mean but not only that when we first started the show I was 26 years old in college navigating New York I I think I was only here for four years at that point broke as a dog like you know like figuring it out at 33 it's completely different like where my mind is so over the last s to eight years people have been able to kind of grow with us in our navigation of our our financial State our careers our love lives our friendships um and so it's been cool for the audience to kind of have a peek into what that really is yeah they've been on the journey one of the things I love is how transparent the both of you are and how detailed the both working on pulling that back I know we we just said I feel like you know what see it's every ltin [ __ ] got a little bit they got a little witch in them no we literally were just talking about are we sharing too much like literally that was our conversation so and I actually wanted to ask you guys about this because you have a platform that is controversial and you have a platform that many people wouldn't be comfortable speaking to the topics that you speak to publicly right and I want to know how and why you decided to live in your truth in this way because there's so many people who are walking around this world aimlessly or following everybody else's rules following someone else's agenda instead of deciding for themselves like no this is the life I'm going to design so where did that come from and what brought you to the decision to be like you know what I'mma live out loud in this way I want a nicer answer for you but this is the answer I have and I think it's like the only one I can give I think we in an era where people really want to be famous and not noted for something they do I really think horrible decisions is good because we one have known each other so long that there's chemist there's so much chemistry there which is why for tough times or even if let's just say a guest doesn't show up we can make an episode like that it's because we know how to talk to each other but I just don't think we tried hard and it's truly authentic I also didn't feel like I was talking to millions of people I'm just talking to man like I actually still think that sometimes where I'm like oh I should take that out because no matter if we talk every day or not I'm still just telling Mandii the story I don't look at this like I'm performing um I really don't treat the podcast like that at all to the point where I think it's hindered me in some aspects to where I started doing a TV show I had trouble leading and hosting I really just am boop I'm going to do the show and um for myself I think that has made it so easy because it was unintentional I didn't like put forth this great effort to like be authentic I just was doing something you know no video back then either I me yeah and to me I think it's like a I figure I'll Eight Mile myself you know like in Eight Mile when Eminem came out and just said everything that he knew his opponent was going to tell about him like I know the decisions I make and I'm also very clear that what's done in the dark will come to light I know that some people will be in my life for only seasons and so however I show up whatever anyone's experience is that's their experience with me no one's perfect and I think I'm just fine in living in my imperfection and kind of growing and learning from my mistakes in front of everyone even in the show you got to think too there's so many times where like we'll say something and we change our minds but it's actually it's just age you know what I mean like you mature out of a certain innocence also I think leaves you a bit why you like hate feet now I put toes in my mouth like there's progression oh no therapy for sure I've been in therapy for the last 3 years weekly very expensive by the way uh but that that has gotten me to dig into like a lot of my traumas um no I was going to say you didn't like therapy at first oh that too oh oh yeah if you go to like our first year I used to think that anyone who went to therapy just didn't know themselves needed someone to tell them who they were and now I've been in therapy for 3 years and it's just been so transformative to how I navigate communication and like literally my interpersonal relationships with everyone else and it's also a mirror of how I can be a better person and yeah you're one I was like [ __ ] therapy Y'all [ __ ] just need someone to tell you who you are y'all don't know yourself and so yeah that's another thing that's definitely changed over the years okay so what I'm hearing is that you guys were young when you first started the podcast I mean 26 yeah but 26 the decisions you 26 and 33 is a big gap actually I think so I don't think 26 is Young though like if we started the pot at 22 like I even feel like that's a different jump like where I was in my sexual Journey at 22 is different than 26 because I think what made us not too young we were in corporate Workforce and I feel like that kind of aged us yeah that'll definitely mature you that made me feel but when I say it I do say actually that I started decisions Young Too mhm because now the way that I'm talking about sex relationships and dating slightly shifted I was way not saying I'm not emotional now but the confusion about men and like the crying and the I didn't realize it was desperation more than what it realized what it is now is a patriarchal thing I have to be dating this type of I have to have a boyfriend I have to have this like I snapped out of it you know mhm so what's really interesting about both of your stories is you both were incorporate and transitioned out into this media landscape so how did you make that transition a lot of our audience is in corporate who are aspiring to become an entrepreneur many of them have just left corporate and are trying to figure things out um and others are like f corporate for life I'm not working at all so at what point did you decide that you no longer needed corporate and you were going to double down on you um for me we were doing live shows and I made my salary in 5 months with what we were doing and so when I saw what we were what I was able to make um I came from an accounting background so I was at a big four and I was working 70 hour weeks especially during like busy season and so to me I was like wow I'm giving someone else 70 hours a week if I put that time into me I wonder you know what I could do now to me it's especially coming from a family that you know didn't have money a savings was a big thing for me so I didn't just see that I made the money and quit immediately I said I want at least a $10,000 savings account and at the time I wanted to buy all new furniture for my house um this was the first time that I was no longer living with a roommate so I had two bedrooms and a at a whole house to myself so that was the thing that I did before I completely quit my job and so I would say I stayed for maybe two or three more months put in my two weeks did it the the normal way still um because I didn't want any bad blood and I quit ironically though eight months later the pandemic happened so I was like it was a hell mared I ended up starting business months later eight months later I quit in July whole world was shut down in March damn it felt like you quit way before that no I quit in July of 2019 I quit a little bit earlier you quit you quit a little bit before me you quit in like March or April now I had a bit of a uh I had a sugar daddy that not when I quit but for the first year of me living in New York I paid no rent and I was given money by him to learn how to build a stock portfolio and the more that I got good at it the more he gave because he just was very invested in me being able to do it on my own so my savings was crazy and to the point where I I was super lucky to be able to do that but my answer is pretty much the same like the trajectory of horrible was not as fast as a corporate climb for me I was a account exec sales engineer working in um telecommunications and data Disaster Recovery [ __ ] like that Salesforce type of stuff and basically what was happening was okay if I stay at this job another three years I'll get this promotion maybe I'll get an increase of this much money horrible was going faster than that it was definitely going faster so I just knew sales I'll just come back whenever honestly all of my colleagues at the time were in their 40s and 50s so because they were older I'm like this job lasts forever I'll just come back if I had to and so the leap of faith was was a good one to take um especially when you have a sugar daddy yeah but I he left me before yeah he wasn't even around he yeah he wasn't around I just had a really good cushion and he taught me so much like the sugar daddy [ __ ] it's funny cuz I don't even know if there's a bag he ever got me he clothes and stuff yeah but like to not pay rent in New York for a year by the way right I got a few friends like that right now with guys they're still spending too much like I was really diligent thank God I was responsible like I really did a good job at knowing like oh I'm not spending 25 and this is back then 3,000 in rent I'll put it away like literally was saving it saving it saving it and um yeah I'm really grateful for that experience and I think Mandii and I quitting though people always want to ask us this question but they don't realize we did the job and horrible for a long time for a long time at least at Le you don't quit your day job until let me see if I quit in still two and a half years we did horrible for two and a half years before we both quit our jobs so I mean that's another thing a lot of people get into podcasting just thinking it's going to be quick money we we spent money like we didn't start seeing money until maybe a year and a half later and that's even really quickly to see and it wasn't a recoup no it was just seeing money yeah but you know I think what really helped us I gave this advice on an episode of earn your leisure where and maybe I did or maybe I did this on a panel but basically I said Mandii and I make money so many different ways from horrible and what's happening is now that I'm producing shows celebrities are kind of just like okay well where's the ad dollars yeah and they or they don't want to do more work we know we have to do XYZ to get there and I think that's really what help touring merch patreon and then advertising yeah but before that because I know patreon is something new that was no we we've we've had patreon since 2017 oh I we we were one of the first we were one of the first patreon looked at our model and how we was doing things you remember how I found out about patreon James my friend James with the long hair that was in a cult the white guy and I know yeah we looked we looked into it paid for a patreon subscription for a podcast that was making $90,000 El Choo Trap House L Chapo trap house yeah and he was like oh you and Mandii because I was complaining about how much we were spending he's like you and Mandii should do this I think you guys have enough fans and it was literally just so that we can cover costs operating costs so literally too and I won't like be like full with the numbers we started in 2017 I think in year one of our patreon we only made like $12,000 bucks year two shot up to like 30,000 by year three over a 100 Grand and right now it's over 200 Grand and we're just keep on climbing so there's six figures coming in just from patreon and but again our first year we were maybe seeing a couple hundred a month like it wasn't a lot and this is also work that we have to do I understand that's a lot of money but it's work that we have to do without the backing of black effect or iHeart because it's our separate entity not saying they wouldn't help with some extra [ __ ] I'm just saying that's another Avenue so when people get a podcast deal they may not want to do [ __ ] else right I mean and even in the start of our patreon Mandii managed audio and editing and I was shipping out merchandising literally by hand folding shirts writing down addresses and names then it got too much we had to start hiring a team like we really built from the ground up to where now to watch the landscape of podcasts it's such an interesting game because I'm like wo you guys have so much even these cameras right just when you think about it we would have video they would have to piece the footage together now one of our Engineers here is pressing the buttons and it's edited by the time you get it yeah like it wasn't like that back when we started no MH so what do you think attributed to the success of the podcast when you first started I mean I think it was a little bit of a the content at the time it was fresh uh there's a lot of other sex podcasts now but at the time we were you know definitely the only ones of color doing it the only black girls talking the way we were talking um I also think we had a really good and strong support system I think by episode three um the people that were around us in New York I don't think this happens if we're in any other City honestly but the people around us were like y'all are [ __ ] great y'all you know so I always say a king came by episode three which put us on the radar of Charlamagne and Chris marrow over at loudspeaker and they didn't just sign us immediately I don't think we even went over there for another year but I think because a lot of podcasts quit and they knew that so they were waiting for me they were waiting to see if we can make it last also people often said H let's see what y'all can talk about after a 100 episodes there's not that much to talk about we have probably between patreon and our regular episodes over 600 episodes we're at over three we're almost at 400 regular episodes and then we drop weekly as well on our patreon since 2017 I would say though when I think back Charlemagne has a lot to do with this magnitude of our success right absolutely I think it would have taken a lot longer without Charlamagne so like yes the show is so good that it would have found people but it got we got a good fast track actually don't even feel like we got a fast track I feel like to get to Charlamagne even it was like these pieces of people but exposure like the exposure and well yeah we went on we went on brilliant which is like again the cross promotion and what it can do for a show we went on brilliant idiots literally by the next week our views were up by 30,000 audio listens a week like we' shop from 12,000 listens a month to maybe like 40 this episode might have been like five years ago and people still talk about it yeah five six years ago people really um I don't know it what attributed to the sex I still don't think there's a lot of sex podcast I still don't think they're Mandii and I for a few reasons talk your [ __ ] girl I just want to be honest I mean y'all sucking dick too but we interrupt our program to bring you this important message ooh this is really good you should know about this so I don't know about you but I've been known to procrastinate especially when things scare the hell out of me the fear alone would have me stuck overwhelmed confused and all types of self-doubt and don't even get me started on the impostor syndrome okay okay after getting laid off not once but three times honey I realized that the security blanket that I made up in my head was just an excuse because I didn't really want to bet on myself the corporate benefits that had me in that headlock girl they went out the window once my job decided that they no longer needed me it turns out that I'll save a whole nickel if I cut your salary completely the truth is the only security blanket guarantee is the one that you create for yourself in other words until you start a business you will always be at the mercy of a company's headcount and you will never have complete control over your time which means you'll be renting out your thought leadership and helping build someone else's dream instead of your own if you've been waiting for a sign this is it don't you think it's time you stop playing small and tap all the way into your PO s click on the link above or below this video to learn my three-step process the exact three steps that I took to make the transition from corporate to entrepreneurship and this is helpful even if you don't know what type of business to start and have only one source of income and this is absolutely free it is my gift to you I want you to win it's winning season in fact what's that it smells like winning season okay so tap in and I'll see you inside the training let's go man are not scared to debate with each other in a way that men can do and women don't do on podcasts but at first it was this thing where maybe I never even said this to you that I noticed this recently it was this thing where it seemed like we had a lot of conflict I'm not saying we don't sometimes cuz we do but when you really look at it women do not challenge each other on show Duo shows cuz they're too close of friends and the opinions are shared too much and Mandii and I literally can sit in front of each other be like no you're wrong you're wrong I'm telling you this and and and hold the argument down with very valid points maybe one's not wrong or the other but understanding our opinions I do not see women do that I think that I mean I think though that we also get the response from the audience in being able to see us do that they automatically think oh my God I can't watch this there's tension oh my God one person is a bully over the other oh my like and it's because they're not used to seeing women just you know have banter or debate in that way and it's just like we could have a difference of opinion that's happened towards the last few years of the show where we can really do it well in the beginning of the show I think it was truly because Mandii and I told stories that people were not telling about their own lives very shamelessly honest yeah they weren't sex stories from um I'm not saying we haven't done sex work but they weren't porn stars they weren't IG it was just these normal girls with office jobs and that allore to being able to have a crazy sex life but still have the same job as anyone else you know you normally think when you hear a girl getting flown out and [ __ ] like this maybe she's a bottle girl I was a whole accountant at a big four firm literally staying out to all hours of the night and going from the club to H&M for my outfit for the day at work and sleeping at my desk until everyone started coming in were the day days the days I honestly I was recently having this conversation playing like a card game with my partner and it was like if you can go back to a year in your life what would it be and I was like oh my God the first year in New York do you remember the time I was [ __ ] that Swiss banker and we randomly had a threesome with a girl that was just sitting down in the restaurant I mean like this that sounds like you've done that a lot no but like what was his name I remember the I remember a Swiss Banker was that the one who went to jail for a white collar crime wasn't he embezzling no it was another yes the embezzling guy but it was crazy because it was such a New York story I'm living on 54th and 8th it was called The Mark with this apartment building that's grandos I mean big Windows it was insane and I have this sugar daddy who never shows up or wants to be there and I'm just living my life dating all these guys on Tinder I'm dating never a DJ a restaurant guy guy a ball player but I've never seen Euro guys we're from Florida so the white guys we have are very like racist but they just are or they have that very like standard American look I'm starting to see white men that don't speak English I'm like what's going oh so I just had such a wild year and it's not the sex it was how good I felt about the sex I remember having crazy sex going to work and being excited to tell the story and just feeling amazing and free and beautiful and also making money that I could do things with I can go shopping for a little outfit at Forever 21 orara and get excited to go out Friday night and like take myself to a happy hour and I hadn't really felt that freedom and New York is such a special place because it it literally makes you feel like you're home when nothing else is home people make you feel like that the irony of people saying New York is like no I love New York I love it oh people make me feel like they're giving me a hug even when they talk to me rough in New York I got a whole ch now that's going to be about I feel like I also feel like our sexuality and the way we were able to explore it we only were able to do that because of New York yeah like literally I was a home in Florida but not like this no literally like I have friends I have literal friends that we go and have birthday dinners they own sex clubs and dungeons like so like I've been able to experience a a Sex Dungeon through just my friend that I met through another friend at berain drinking $8 martinis you know what I mean so like New York offers that sensibility of like you could literally do whatever you want and not everyone has to come back to your home but you just get to explore and everyone is just kind of free here mhm you're also not the crazy one um my ex-girlfriend when we were living in Orlando she said something to me that made me feel insecure for years she said in a fight with me we're still friends to day and we dat after but she was like you don't know how hard this is like everybody always asks me why I'm dating you and they think you're crazy and they think you're wild and like they just think you're this wild girl and I'm like but you be doing the same [ __ ] with me we go to Raves together as we do this and I thought to myself what is it about me am my too out extroverted like cuz she's right you did the same things with me but people do have this opinion of me in New York no one things like that N I could walk in a bar start talking about how I got [ __ ] in the ass and it was slipping out or maybe now like no one's Really Gonna oh [ __ ] okay New York allows me to be 33 with no kids and no one questions me like why not the New York Love Story love it and it does smell like pee you guys it sure does it's worth it we love get peed on my God walking this neighborhood like I I also have another Studio I film in and every time I walk over here it's always an experience because there's so much you got to keep your head on side over here it is it is too much but I'm I'm giggling as I'm listening to you guys because my audience they not ready they they not ready for this okay is they not ready not B for this show I'm so excited y going to be grabbing your edges I can't wait for the com oh my goodness sorry y' but I want to talk about business Partnerships because both of you have been candid about the fact that you don't see eye to eye all the time but you've been able to work through that and I think women specifically have a hard time with separating business and personal and or have a hard time seeing the bigger picture where they are able to process the emotions but still get [ __ ] done and I think the both of you have been able to do that so what is your advice for those who are seeking partners in business what should they be looking for what is the assessment process like and also what do you do when [ __ ] hits the fan I mean [ __ ] hit the fan for me uh with another business partnership for me what you should look for in a partnership now like moving what I've learned is to really see what your partner is strong in how do they do business what are how you know that so that's what I'm saying you have to know before you get into a partnership oh that's a good question though like well so to me there would be I mean and maybe not just jumping right into business with a partner at all I don't know like I'm to the point now where everybody getting a1099 I don't know if I'll ever have a partnership again without just paying someone outright for whatever they're doing for me however I think whether you take a test whether you really see how they navigate where they're at now currently whether they have a job do they show up on time what is their role at that job and maybe actually having the conversation what do you really like to do what things are you strong in what things do you absolutely hate I think those conversations aren't had enough with Partners to where you go into a partnership and it's split 50/50 right so you assume we got to split this work 50/50 well that's not realistic that just absolutely is not realistic and it's not going to happen that way especially if you're unaware with the shortcomings or what the strengths are of your partner and so you have to go in knowing that I also would highly highly recommend not to go into business with a friend unless you are willing to lose the Friendship the business or both I think and that's where when there's a strong friendship or when someone maybe wants the grace of showing up less than the other person they lean more into the personal relationship and so I feel like that's where it gets muddied when there's that dynamic between personal and business because a lot of people it's hard to separate the two and so if someone isn't showing up in business and you're talking to them they're going to take it personal as an attack knowing you know what I mean so I would just I would advise not to do it MH and I think that's what helps I feel like this is a little too fresh for you Budd I mean think I mean I didn't expect you to be here Mandii wait wait was that not it Fu that don't partner with nobody but you know what's crazy I've been actually saying that be Simone and Meg from the no for sure podcast literally sat in front of us and they loved each other on the couch and I was like ooh I really hope that this stands the test of time and that show ended as well like there's a lot of public breakups that we've seen from the music industry and trickling down especially in the entertainment space and we don't know all of the breakups with everyone in business but you can look them up I know like uh Adidas there was a split Apple there was a split Nike there's been different changes right it's really hard to maintain a business and keep a a personal friendship I would say on the other side for me Mandii and I haven't been Buddy Buddy friends since we were early 20s so yeah it's easier to be more diplomatic with us yeah um when I made WTF media Alex and I were at the point where we're hanging out every day right now we're born one day apart and I believe in astrology and Pisces emotions we've gotten in one big fight with the studio a year ago maybe two years ago um and he said something in the fight that shocked me he and I didn't talk to each other for like a month and no one knew none of the staff we were kind of getting a little weird with each other but basically it was completely emotional fight and I don't believe you can separate business and personal at all I think that the thing about entrepreneurship is that you're not working for a corporation so because you're not working for a corporation you're supposed to have some feelings and some emotion and some compassion like maybe I don't know three years of doing WTF media I've had five times an employee ask me for money early than their paycheck time and every single time I've given it because to me same what the [ __ ] is the perk of you working for a small business that can't help you when there's probably [ __ ] you're doing that's a little bit extra but it's a small business so we're figuring it out so anyway with Alex in this fight remember we came to La we talked we were in the studio together and he's like yo I'm so mad I'm so tight like that we're going through this issue that I I don't need this m Studio I don't want to do it anymore like I don't want to make another one I don't want to work I don't want to keep working and I was like wow that let me know like yes it is it is tied together you know like you do have to have some sort of not even friendliness more than I don't even want to use the word respect it's more of like a it's definitely respect I think there has to be respect for each other I think you can respect someone and it has to be semifriendly like a camaraderie almost and you have to be excited to do this business because even if there's respect there you still got to be able to speak to each other got to be open like it's it's dead ass emotional I don't know if you can really separate business and personal she a Pisces I ain't that emotional I my my feeling my feeling my feelings can be cut the [ __ ] off I it's it's black and white with me she is lying cuz I her CH and I I don't know girl when you whenever you get mad at me in the last two years I would say uhhuh your reasoning is a very emotional one which I'm open to listening to because that the language I speak cap that is cap that is Cap don't listen to her here you see how M cryy cap girl please you emotional but um I would actually say my one thing for partnership advice Will Smith Mandii and I actually were both there yes um and it's crazy so I'm there Mandii was there was a bad boy screening and he was with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence so very lucky to be there Alex and I got invited but Mandii was also invited too Will Smith Men separately cuz you know I got my own invites mm like it's okay anyway Will Smith said something about him and Martin and he was like oh he knows how to make me look great I know how to make him look great and he said we surrendered our egos the surrendering of egos Alex is sitting on my left Mandii's down there towards the right and I literally was thinking like wow that is something I've had to practice a lot in the podcast it's different CU you shine you're doing your person personalities but in the studio specifically I have to be wrong a lot because this technical [ __ ] I don't know and I have to be honest when I'm not right I have to really not feel like I'm not worthy The Sweat Equity that we've poured into this business is is is very imbalanced because when we're building a new location I really don't do anything but find it this is his job however when we need to do Partnerships pay bills pay employees do anything invoicing I feel like he he don't know how much the lights is and that [ __ ] used to bother me sometimes but I got a lot of nerve saying that when it exists because you built the [ __ ] together so it's acknowledging the strengths and knowing that oh I really can't do this without you see see she said the same thing I said just differently acknowledging the strengths and the weaknesses of and I think that that's very important in Partnership like but you you're aware of but you can know someone's done something and have a chip on your shoulder about it yeah you have to really you have to know how to communicate you have to really be able to celebrate someone's strengths yeah more than belittle their weaknesses agree if someone's not good at something and it's been a while maybe see them for who they are yeah like it is what it is I've learned that about myself I've learned a lot of my own flaws that I've had to accept I'm good at a lot of [ __ ] and I'm bad at a lot of [ __ ] but surrendering the ego that's Will Smith not us yeah so what about this partnership in particular has allowed for the both of you to not be like [ __ ] it I'm walking away from oh no that's been said many times I'm sure it has been said to me I say it all the time when we specifically even when we go on tour our brand while it's yes very salacious very wild very raw we've actually changed lives believe it or not um by sharing our stories to me it's a lot of sexual education and Liberation and Liberation and giving women permission to explore themselves and embrace themselves and so to me every time we've gotten upset with each other or you know felt like this was the last straw we don't want to do it anymore we've realized that what we've created is actually bigger than the both of us and so we've surrendered our ego to the brand like who we are yes we we are both Alphas we both you know have our egos and think very highly of each of ourselves and know that we're both capable of creating things outside of the brand but I think our audience our community and knowing the work that we're doing keeps us doing it I know right when I think I'm done and I want to give this up we go back on the Road and people are crying telling me that they got the gastric sleeve because of me or that their friends also are battling cancer and like the stories that they are able to hear outside of yes a sucking dick you know from time to time it's it's more about like our Journeys and them them seeing themselves in in either of us and sometimes they might see themselves in me and might switch and be like I'm more like Weezy now and so it's being able to feel scene and so this is bigger than us I would say if it's not money are fans cuz that's it truth be money and fans is why we say right the thing that makes this partnership easier for me than it has over the years is what we create is truly Mandii and I there's not a uh what's the word when something's off a scale unbalance okay there's not an imbalance in the creative output we've had so much content that we've made that's amazing and I see it is like literally both in the beginning when we first started people would pit us against each other a lot and they would say things about who was better than the other and I think it's that's because we were women I think yeah I think innately people put women against each other not so much more like they did before right now maybe someone will say I don't like Weezy because she do this but before they would directly be like this one's better than the other do it without this one I would see that a lot in the beginning right yeah I don't see that as much any something don't like me they' be like damn Mandii shut the [ __ ] but but they come back every week so and they do and they do but when that happened there were moments and this is just me being totally honest where I thought when I would be angry can I do a podcast by myself now seeing what we make it is 100% 50/50 I just said it on the episode of M I see so much of these moments where it's just Mandii this episode Mandii took it over or Weezy took it over or even if it's just our both of our energy and it's not the same when we have a guest host it's just not they're good like we still do our thing Mandii and I don't make money outside of each other cuz we whack but this partnership itself is truly a creative chemistry and connection that is irreplaceable and I literally was thinking we may be talked about this once or twice I was like if that Mandii she said you Irreplaceable I'm [ __ ] I know [ __ ] acknowledge it to me I a't surrendering to my ego right now [ __ ] y know if I died can we not put that hello didn't we talk about words no [ __ ] calm down we're sitting next to a witch you just said calm down let's not we're all going to die no s see come on girl what if you turn into Alex Cooper if I die I'm not playing with you what if they were like damn she I'm not even entertaining that conversation no but I used to think I already just be worried about you getting pregnant you are irreplaceable okay me pregnant on hor already told her she going to have to sit with her belly and all we going to be on tour she going to have to have it cut out be incredible content girl I thought so too my man was like what you mean you going to be on the road pregnant I was like you know the first seven months women work when they pregnant I think I completely agree but there is something about this era of the podcast like being ipping about sex and no one else I'm sure goes through this but girls talking about sex when it's done is a conversation a lot not him I'm saying just people in my life oh when you have a family when you're done with horrible people say that to me a lot because I want children oh you know when you're married and you're done with horrible like bro the evolution of our show would include [ __ ] like that can you imagine if we've been talking about this stuff the whole time and I got pregnant and didn't do the show how can I not tell you about what my body is doing that's literally the purpose of the [ __ ] so it's strange to me that everybody does that sometimes even my mom will you still do this if you're yes like I want to breastfeed on a final episode or some [ __ ] Jesus what viral viral moment okay I know that both of you have places to be and people to do darling but I want to talk about money management because the both of you have built these incredible careers and are managing a lot of money that necessarily wasn't available to you before so how are you managing your money are you seeking counsel like did you go and blow a bag multiple bags like how are you keeping it together to make sure like it comes in and stays in versus go out now I didn't get the education from a sugar daddy or my family uh my family I know you an accounting background too yeah I I mean an accounting background is very different though like I did taxes for people so yay I pay my taxes on time no when when we friends again you were telling me how you were using a spreadsheet oh no I'm very good well and I budget like even us B I got to tell you why we can't pay ourselves the next two months cuz we got a big payout coming but like like I managed like I I enjoy managing money to me it was important to have the things that I knew I wanted from corporate so I have for I maximize and put the max into my 401k every year so my 401k is over six figures right now I don't know anyone in my family with a full 401K in real life I have another high yield account that I'm putting towards to buy a house so I want to be able to walk and have at least $80,000 to put down I'm $20,000 away from that and then I just got an M1 account uh which is goes into the markets so that's like my Investment Portfolio so I have money that to me as long as I can't see it it's there and I know it's there but to me it's important not to see it or I'll spend it so I'm really big with putting my money in places that are at Arms Reach like for my uh high yield account it's Ally I can pull it out whenever I want to but it's a completely different app completely different place to store my money it's not in my Chase accounts so to me it's about putting money letting it grow but letting it go sit somewhere because I don't need it right now and if I see it yeah I'll spend it so it's about putting it in places that I know will grow and again investing in myself so for a lot of the brands and things that I've done outside of this like my studio that bringing in revenue and just making everything that I make in terms of business uh Revenue generating business somehow mhm as far as bank accounts my ideology has been the same like not seeing it uh I did have a lot of my answers are the same because I do the same thing the only thing I do slightly differently is I have an AI Trader on Charles Schwab that helps me with stocks so something that happened to me during the pandemic I made mad money from stocks six speakers but after a while that changed and it was very hard to um keep keep uh not keep up with it but basically like yeah I guess keep up with it or so the AI Trader has been so useful because Charles swabs does it for free and it'll basically place your money in certain places you could say how much you want going to Futures stocks or whatever it is or even if you like a certain type of stock whether it be Tech or whatever that's helped the only other little tip I would give that I've really enjoyed is I've been oh my God this is crazy cuz I didn't even realize it but like I had been saving money in accounts and ripping the paper on where they were they are in a locked password in my phone there's five bank accounts that I have one is like a ninja Trader that Ian Dunlap told me about shout out to the master investor random Banks Fidelity [ __ ] like that and it's like rainy day [ __ ] and they're high yield savings yeah but literally I don't know where they are I don't look at them like the paper somewhere but I don't and it's really that if you can't see it type [ __ ] there's a few app make sure you just put it in somewhere where it is growing so the high Yi when you're making money and I know that's hard for people that may not have extra so it's like we're lucky to be able to do this no this is this is yeah but also what I'm really trying to drive home here is like women of color who are coming across a lot of money you know what I mean You' started a million dollar company Mandii you're [ __ ] killing it so it's large sums of money that traditionally we are not taught how to manage or what to do when we come across that type of money so I really want to help people see what are the resources and tools or what's the game like I mean it's also it's also helping your family like like when I started getting money even during the pandemic I paid off my mom's car she had uh probably about a year left in payments so I paid that off for her and then I started chipping away at her credit car bills and we were really like okay if you don't have debt or now you don't have a car note let's figure out where you can place this money and so it's also teaching the people around you as well and helping them get debt free and it's also hard too because I had lent a lot of money out and I really became a crutch where I wasn't given the tools you know what I'm saying like yeah teaching my friends like how to make some side money have have a side hustle [ __ ] like that Mandii and I hire our friends a lot for stuff yeah you know absolutely I try to give bread like especially in the studio too just showing love to people that have been working for a bit if I can get them some extra cash doing a gig what whatever but there's one other tip if you have good discipline I have made so much extra money save so much money by credit card deals Delta AMX being able to save money I'm telling you getting into the right company with the right even our remember you were like I don't want to have a credit card because we're forgetting to pay it you remember that no it wasn't the credit card but you wanted that 100,000 SBA loan or something no no no oh specific I was like girl what if we break up I don't want to had his de girl no we had a ink uh Chase business unlimited ink card right Mandii and I were sending out merchandise maybe spending 5,000 a month on merch it was way too much and I'm like bro we need a credit card and she's like no then one of us is going to have to put our social down blah blah I was like [ __ ] it I'll do it bro we had so much cash that you could send back from what you're spending and like it it did take some managing but I'm OB obsessed with that my father is terrified of credit he never wanted me to have a credit card he never wanted me to do that he never wanted me to be in debt however when you really learned how to use credit [ __ ] free money constantly Alex literally won't spend money on the studio unless we do it on a credit card one of ours because that's how much you get back yeah so I've just really taken advantage of that and learning the game and I realize too it's tough because when I'm at the point when I was living paycheck to paycheck none of this matters none of this [ __ ] and this advice we're giving matters you have to get to a decent place to use this stuff when you're struggling this is like deaf ears and I hate when people used to tell me [ __ ] like this cuz I'm like it was impossible what the [ __ ] am I supposed working to pay bills like it's it's tough but once you get a little cushion then that's how you that's what rich people do y they use Millions to [ __ ] save it and make it the fact that millionaires billionaires don't use money to buy homes cash is crazy to me MH they get mortgages bro because of inflation so all that to say I am very aware that this is coming from a privileged place the advice I'm giving is to someone that's got some decent savings and you know agre yeah I love that well thank you ladies so much I appreciate you being here with me and please continue to operate in your truth and just [ __ ] kill it cuz you got people like me who are like taking notes and being like you know kind of the aspiration piece I think is super important and I think what I love about you both and the example that you are putting out there is like women can be dope at the same damn time and can okay now if y'all want to listen to dick sucking and not know inspirational [ __ ] you come on over to us every Monday check out horrible decisions type in [ __ ] we pop up that's w h o r e IBL e but individually where can people find out more about you guys uh at full core pumps everywhere I'm Weezy WTF on life all right thank you so much ladies I appreciate you guys and shout out to all of you for tuning in I cannot wait to read your 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